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Guest commentary by Frimet Goldberger:
Nechemya Weberman is back in the limelight. After a long postponement of his trial, he’s finally reclaimed his celebrity status amongst Hasidim.
We now know
Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel left the Hasidic community, the Modern Orthodox community and the Formerly Orthodox (OTD) community. She now lives in Pomona and is actively looking for a new community to leave. She deals with the perplexities of the communities she left by drawing cartoons about them, a habit that gets her into an excellent amount of trouble.10 Responses to “The Penn State Chusid”
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Nicely written…
You touched on a pressure point when you mentioned the sefardim situation which always angered me for forcing them in the community where they could never fit in (not because of their faults of course)…. as they (the Ekstein family) would say on the sefardim “zei darfen zich intervarfen”…
What is most frustrating to me is that THESE PEOPLE (I know its inappropriate to group people like this) truly believe that they are after all the perfect human beings / family / community…
When something happens in the community, first they deny, then they try to keep it shut, then they say its one person who everyone knows he is not normal etc…. but the rest is all so beautiful!
I would strongly urge you to err on the side of caution and to hide this toon until after the verdict. This man is innocent until proven otherwise, that is not to say that he is innocent, or guilty, but the depiction and the commentary is tilted strongly in the guilty direction. And if he is found guilty I hope he does get what he deserves.
The jewry is still out on this one Ms. Goldberger, you should’ve kept this post for another month or so when the verdict is in. Unlike in the Sandusky there are no witnesses here and only one acuser who has a real motive to get back at Weberman, namely he worked with her father to tape her having sex with a 21 year old while she was in her teens and the BF was arrested as a result.It will all come down to he says she says.
Then Weberman should be on trial for conspiring to produce child pornography. I’m not sure on what planet this constitutes motive on the part of the girl; her “therapist” worked with her father to tape her having sex. Uh, okay.
He is either innocent or guilty already; the presumption of innocence is in court, so he can have a fair trial where evidence is shown and the state must prove their case.
S. you are not that stupid as you present yourself here. This girl had a BF of 21 while she was 13 or 14 the idea (agreeably awkward) was to document him having sex with her so he can be charged with underage sex. In fact the BF was arrested as a result not Weberman for pornography. The charges were dropped when the girl threatened with suicide. Motive is pretty obvious.
S, the imperfect system which is the courts is the only one we have. Don’t disrespect it otherwise you are left with the jungle law that fosters the same perversion you and i both despise.
I hate censorship, but I would hate to see the authors of this excellent and refreshing blog come to harm even more. However remote the chances of that may be, they are arguably on the wrong side of defamation law as things stand. Even failedmessiah is careful in the way he words his articles.
And Sam, same goes to you. Justice John Ingram found that argument
Oh, Sam, when you put it like that it is perfectly reasonable. The “therapist” and the tatti cook up a plan to provide foolproof illegal – and invasive and disrespectful – evidence for a conviction of the boyfriend. This is how most statutory rape convictions happen, right? Or not. Did they discuss this with a lawyer first? Give me a break. Weberman is a creep, for sure. The question is whether he is guilty of what he is charged? Yes, that is up to the jury. Did you post comments someplace asking people to wait for Sandusky’s conviction?
Ant Tics, indeed. That is why I do not advocate for a anyone doing anything to him, regardless of his guilt or innocence and regardless if he acquitted or found guilty – mistakes happen in both directions.
However, how does this compel me or anyone not to have any kind of opinion? That is an instruction for the jury, that’s all. If Weberman wants to make a fool out of himself and sue Frieda or Frimet, won’t that be a party. I wouldn’t worry about it.
I will say that some of the extra antipathy *may* be rooted in his and his crowd’s decision to ask people to judge her rather than let each have their say in court. A little less chutzpah. I get it – if he is innocent then he wants to defend himself (he’s still a creep though, that is established). Next time a different strategy should be employed rather than coming out to defend the powerful, connected guy who wants people to instead judge and defame a powerless, unconnected young woman.
if regardless if this story is true or not and/or too early to judge, the essence of this article of how such maters r being reported, handled and viwed by the “oilem” is true and same goes to what chet hayediah wrote…